In this inspiring conversation, Jeff Ross sits down with digital nomad, Facebook growth strategist, and freedom-focused entrepreneur Mike Holp. They unpack what it really means to live the laptop lifestyle without burnout, how to build authentic relationships on social media, and the dangers of relying solely on automation. Mike shares how he grew his Facebook audience organically, built a thriving community, and found balance between purpose, profit, and play.
1️⃣ Burnout is not a badge of honor. Mike opens up about his crash after years of hustling and how it led to his mission-driven life.
2️⃣ Real connections > automation. People want to feel your heart. AI is a tool, not a replacement for genuine storytelling.
3️⃣ Facebook is far from dead. Mike breaks down how organic reach, powerful posts, and authentic engagement still win.
4️⃣ Freedom starts with clarity. Before you go viral, know your values. Build a business that aligns with who you are.
5️⃣ Live where you're loved, not just where you're paid. Mike talks about the joy of living in Thailand and designing a life around purpose, not pressure.
💡 “If you don't tell your story, someone else will—and they probably won’t get it right.” – Mike Holp
💡 “People don’t connect with brands. They connect with people—real people.” – Jeff Ross
💡 “You don’t need ads to grow. You need connection.” – Mike Holp
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Jeff Ross (00:00) All right, G'day legends. Welcome back to another episode of Laptop Lifestyle Dad Show. Hey, we're in partnership with the Los Angeles Trueview Podcast Network. Thank you very much for blessing us with that opportunity. Hey, I'm your host, Jeff Ross, your caffeinated kangaroo bouncing in from Tasmania, helping frustrated affiliate marketers, network marketers, and online entrepreneurs master AI, social selling, and attraction marketing to build a business that works for you, not the other way around. And today's episode is going to hit home.
especially if you're passionate about brand branding and freedom and building a life that you don't need a vacation from. Yeah, quick shout out before we dive into it all. I just want to give a shout out to our laptoplifestockdadsacademy students for thank you for saying yes, for blessing us the opportunity to be able to help mentor you and guide you to help you to step up and become experts in your field. And this episode is brought to you by the laptoplifestockdadsacademy. And if you're ready to build a brand with AI powered marketing,
automate your business and finally create time and financial freedom without burning out, then you'll need to check out the Academy in the Show Notes below. So let's jump straight in. And today's guest is someone who's truly embodies the remote lifestyle dream. Mike Hulp is a digital entrepreneur, a world traveler, an expert in personal branding himself, who's helped countless people launch online businesses while living life on their terms.
from travel photography to online consulting, Mike's mastered the art of storytelling and building genuine communities around him. And today he's gonna bring his wisdom straight to you. So Mike, welcome to the Laptop Lifestyle Dash Show.
Mike Holp (01:42)
Cheers, thanks so much for having me on the podcast. Glad to be here.
Jeff Ross (01:45)
No,
my absolute pleasure. And I love to just always start here. So if you could share with your story, like a bit of a summary of it in two minutes or less, that'd be a really great place because this is about creating a heart to heart connection with you, right, and our audience. And I find the best way to do that is to share our story from, you know, what I call Sucksville to where we are, to Awesome Town. So what is your Sucksville to Awesome Town story?
Mike Holp (02:06)
Yeah.
good question. So I've shared this story on many times now, but basically I'm from the U S as you can probably guess. And you know, I've lived there most of my life and I was living in Austin, Texas for about six, seven years and just kind of stuck in the rat race. Right. So, you know, essentially I was delivering food to people on my bike for a while. And that was just to basically pay my bills to get by.
And after a point, I'm like, what the hell am I doing all this for? Just going around in circles. And I ended up in late 2019, I bought a one-way ticket to freedom. And I took off for Bali, Indonesia. Yeah, yeah. Been wanting to visit for a year. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So I saw this as an up-and-coming destination for digital nomads, remote workers. This was before the pandemic. And I ended up
Jeff Ross (02:52)
Love that. One-way ticket to freedom. I love that.
Mmm.
Mike Holp (03:06)
Staying there for about two months and then my visa ended up expiring. So I decided to ⁓ head on over to Thailand and picked out Phuket on the map, flew into Phuket and the rest is history. Big year, five years.
Jeff Ross (03:21)
Love it. Yeah, brilliant. was
actually in Phuket last year in August and I think it was pretty hot. Very humid. Yeah. Barlang Road. That's an eye-opener, especially at night time. Bangla Road. Yeah, Bangla Road. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. I had a pretty awesome time there. I took my actual 13-year-old son over. No, I didn't take him down Bangla Road at night time.
Mike Holp (03:28)
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, right now it's really hot.
Yeah, yeah, Bangalore. Mm-hmm. That place is great.
Jeff Ross (03:50)
But we had an amazing time whilst we were there. It was pretty awesome. So I'm really curious, what role has storytelling and personal brand played in helping you to build trust and freedom as with your people, right? And help you to build trust and freedom as an entrepreneur for your audience.
Mike Holp (03:50)
That's good.
Yeah, good question as well. I really just like to be authentic, open, transparent with people. So just recently I was at a conference in Vietnam, called Vietnam Nomad Fest, and I did a speech on how to make money on Facebook and YouTube. And I shared my own personal journey with the audience. And I was very nervous to get up on stage because this isn't something that I'm used to doing. But once I was up there, it just became almost effortless.
Jeff Ross (04:23)
Mm.
Mike Holp (04:37)
I just spoke from the heart. people really seemed to appreciate my honesty. ⁓ I wasn't showing that I was making $10,000 a month or anything like this. I was just very open with people. So I think through telling those stories and then the personal journey as well that got me from where I was point A to point B, ⁓ it can be a superpower.
Jeff Ross (04:38)
Mmm.
Yeah, I find it's the way to cut through the noise, right? It's a very noisy place. It's to be really real, transparent, authentic, right? But not faked authentic. I know that's a contradiction in terms, but there are a lot of people out there that sort of using this new term, bad authenticity, for manipulation's sake. But people can sense through that BS, right? So, you know, I find especially when
Mike Holp (05:10)
It sure is. It sure is.
Uh-huh.
Sure. Of course. I can see through a red flame
most times.
Jeff Ross (05:33)
Right. But I find when
you focus on building legacy impact, it's not about you. It's about the greater good. It's about the community you serve, right? That's where that true authenticity and being vulnerable and transparent are really, really big assets for you in storytelling, right?
Mike Holp (05:48)
Yeah.
Exactly, and just through being really authentic, got a lot of people coming up to me after this speech, like right away asking me, how can I do this? They didn't even know that you could make money on Facebook. So, it's just...
Jeff Ross (06:02)
Yeah.
Yeah, find that's the
attraction marketing itself, right? It's to put yourself out there, but you bring people to you and then you take them down the customer value journey. And essentially what we're describing here is leadership. Yeah, leadership is influence, influence is leadership, nothing more, nothing less.
Mike Holp (06:07)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely, and it's you know it's not an overnight success right it takes taking me many years to get to this stage Wow, long time for you as well
Jeff Ross (06:24)
No.
Yeah, I've been gone since 2010. So there you go. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And
some, you know, people are starting to recognize who I am now and say, Oh, where's this Jeff Ross come from? It's an overnight success story. was like, no, it's 16 years of trial and error before it.
Mike Holp (06:42)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't see the years and years of hard work and slogging you put into it before reaching ⁓
Jeff Ross (06:49)
Yeah, that's it.
So, mate, you've built some authentic communities around you and you travel and your lifestyle is one of those ones where you don't need vacation from because it's just a permanent vacation. And you don't use shady ads. It's beautiful. Everything I've seen about you, it's just about pure connection. It's about that heart to heart interaction. I appreciate that.
Mike Holp (07:01)
Pretty much.
For the most part, yeah, I try to keep it positive.
Jeff Ross (07:16)
For our network and affiliate marketers who are listening here, and ones who I really believe that really cracked the code here are building personal brands and not just being another cloned ambassador for another company XYZ. Today it's really about how do we build real influence without relying on spammy and cold outreach and all of that. Do you have any tips for our listeners to be able to help support them on their journey to sort of get this going for them?
Mike Holp (07:44)
Yeah, I mean, if you're talking about a specific platform, let's say, let's focus on Facebook, for example. ⁓ You don't have to be constantly selling people and sending cold DMs all the time. I've got about 40,000 followers now, just my personal profile. And lately, I've just started going through and starting conversations with these people. And I'm not trying to sell them anything, I'm just basically saying,
Jeff Ross (07:51)
Yeah, great place to start.
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Mike Holp (08:13)
What inspired you to follow me? Would love to start a conversation, something along those lines. And just by doing that, you can get to know people virtually. And then from there, you can call if you want later. But I would recommend not just like selling them right away in the DMs, because that's sleazy. It's a...
Jeff Ross (08:23)
Yeah, slow it down, slow it down.
Yeah, yeah, it's
a bit like dating, right? We've got to slow it down. We've got to court people. We've got to build relationship. Yeah.
Mike Holp (08:38)
Yeah, and that's
something I've struggled with over the years too, is like just going in for the the juggler like right away, but it doesn't work.
Jeff Ross (08:52)
When I first got into this game, the way I like to describe it was, think of Jeff Ross, you you walk along the beach and there's all of sudden there's this dog that's running up the beach and starts humping your leg. Like, that used to be me. Like I used to be right into it. Like I think we've all done it. We're all guilty of it a bit. And maybe not to that extreme, but you know, we all go in for the kiss a bit too early, right? So we've just got to learn to slow it down.
Mike Holp (09:05)
Mm-hmm.
yeah.
huh.
Jeff Ross (09:20)
It's human first, marketer second, and it's about learning the art of relationship building.
Mike Holp (09:20)
Yeah, sure.
And speaking of walking on the beach and talking to people, I think it's better if they come up to you and approach you for... That happens for me from time to time in Simile because I've kind of built a brand here and I'm quite well known in Simile. So sometimes people come up to me on the beach and strike up a conversation. So it's better if they come up to me versus me going after them. It's that... ⁓ Yeah, nasty.
Jeff Ross (09:33)
Mmm. Mmm.
Mm.
Mm.
So
I find you can do that online too, Lead with content and if you use content to create curiosity and start a conversation rather than try to pitch all the time, ⁓ that's where you can get people to put their hand up and say, yes, me, I'd like more information. And essentially they've qualified themselves to start a conversation. So I suppose, have you got any tips or training to help people to support them to learn how to do that?
Mike Holp (09:56)
Huh? Good.
Mm-hmm.
Sure, I still-
Yes.
⁓ not really, but I was speaking with a guy recently who I met at this conference in Vietnam and he's, he's quite good at, you know, selling on social media. And he just gave me like a template to follow for the, the posts, the hand raised posts, so to speak. And I just, I gave one of those a try. like, I don't know who, who basically who wants to escape the rap race without burnout and move to Thailand in the next six weeks. Comment below or whatever.
Jeff Ross (10:27)
you
Mm.
Mike Holp (10:48)
Right, and I tried that and I got a lot of comments. Just people raising their hands saying yes.
Jeff Ross (10:51)
Yeah. So it's,
it's what I call being the detective. It's, it's been, it's genuinely curious to get, you ask like a qualifying question to the, you to your massive following, right? So your 40,000 people to get them to say, yeah, I would like more information. That might be me. Like I might want to know more about it. It's that stage, right? It's, it's that the sick discovery stage. Hmm. Yeah. Love it.
Mike Holp (10:56)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Sure. Discovery, Yep.
Jeff Ross (11:18)
So as someone who's seen the whole inside of the whole remote work boom, know, Bali and all this other thing now is, you know, for digital content creators and entrepreneurs, it's the hit place. It sounds like you were there before it all happened. You know, what are some of the biggest opportunities and biggest traps for people in the online marketing space in 2025 and beyond? Like what are some of the pitfalls that we think we need to highlight to help people avoid?
Mike Holp (11:28)
you
is is going
Hmm. Good question. Yeah, it got me stopped on that one. ⁓ Yeah, I don't know.
Jeff Ross (11:56)
Okay. I don't know why that I just, I'm doing it. It's just always us always asked the question, right? Because it's about, for me, this space is about service. It's about being a hero maker, not a hero. And it's about trying to, you know, be the guide on the, you know, the journey, right? To guide people. And sometimes, you know, the biggest thing we can do is help people avoid certain pitfalls, you know, like, know, don't go over that death to flying cliff. Because, you know, if you go down that right down that road, you're gonna die, you're gonna fail.
Mike Holp (11:58)
I'm pitfalls. Yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Jeff Ross (12:25)
So, you know, I suppose if you had any experience in, you know, in some big mistakes that you've made to help people avoid those same mistakes, have you got any stories around that?
Mike Holp (12:36)
I mean, I will say that think content creation now is getting a bit separated, especially in a place like Bali. And I say it's both a blessing and a curse because there's so many people doing it now that places like Bali and even Phuket, they're just getting too busy. There's so many content creators and that would be one thing that I say just at a bigger picture is
Jeff Ross (13:05)
Yep,
so when everybody's zigging, find the way to zag.
Mike Holp (13:07)
Uh-huh,
uh-huh. Sure. Yeah, I say that's a way to put it.
Jeff Ross (13:10)
Okay, cool.
Yeah. So I've been watching you over the last couple of months, the last six months, and I know you started to experiment and dabble with AI and, you know, and, you know, with AI getting better every day, especially at content creation, how do you personally balance, you know, AI with staying authentic with your brand voice? So what are your, some of your tips around this?
Mike Holp (13:17)
Thank you.
Yes, I am.
You're full of the good questions today. would say like I'm not using the faceless videos. There's a guy on Facebook, I'm sure you're familiar with him, Austin Armstrong. really? wow, it's an honor to be on here. So he created Syllabe, which basically allows you to create these faceless videos. And obviously you could do really well with these, you could get videos that go potentially viral on YouTube.
Jeff Ross (13:37)
Ha ha ha
Mm.
We've had him on our show. Yeah.
Yes.
Mike Holp (14:02)
putting them up as shorts. But for me, I really try to avoid that because it's not, going back to what we were talking about earlier, it's not authentic. It's, I would say, fake, in lack of a better term. So I really just focus on showing my face. I want to show my face in the videos because that, I think that's the best way to build a personal brand. I could be using all these AI fancy gizmo tools. ⁓
Jeff Ross (14:11)
Mmm.
Mike Holp (14:30)
But for the most part, I kind of try to avoid that.
Jeff Ross (14:32)
Yeah, I could see that. I actually see in that, in this space of AI revolution, whatever you want to call it, right? There's a lot of hype around it at the moment. And I'm seeing that the space that, I've always been a person that I've recognized even before AI, people are starving for connection. They're starving to be seen and heard and known, right? And that gap seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
Mike Holp (14:39)
Mm-hmm.
For sure.
Sure.
I think so too.
Yeah.
Jeff Ross (14:59)
So
when we can leverage AI to help support us, not replace us, it's always my mantra has always been AI plus our heart equals our superpower. So what are some of the ways that you leverage AI to support you on your journey?
Mike Holp (15:04)
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, so I've actually, I think I mentioned this to you another time, just through Facebook messengers. I've been using an AI chatbot and I've been using this chatbot on my business page for around four months. I use a tool called Sintpulse for that. And so basically what that does is it just posts comment replies to increase engagement on posts. And then it also sends them a DM. So basically it takes the response and then it runs it through JetGBT and
Jeff Ross (15:30)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mike Holp (15:44)
and then sends it back to DM. So I've been using that for around four or five months now. And honestly, like it's not really generating more clients or book calls for the business. So just yesterday I disabled it. Because I'm like, this is and it's also getting on people's nerves too. I'm like, maybe better not to use it anymore. ⁓ So and now basically what I've done on the business page is I just added my
the button to contact me via WhatsApp. And I'm already getting people reaching out on WhatsApp. So I don't think I need the chat bot. Right?
Jeff Ross (16:17)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And look,
I've experimented, I've experimented with those chatbots too, and those comment bots as well. And, and I do see there, there for some industries, they, they, they serve, but I think for as an influencer, someone's lead with a personal brand, the, yeah, when you can lead in and bring in the human even more, I think that's even more noticeable, especially today. And, and people, people respect that. Yeah. ⁓
Mike Holp (16:28)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Sure. ⁓
Jeff Ross (16:47)
I've yet to find a balance between AI automation and bringing in the human for communication point of view. So I personally love to leverage AI for my content, with my posts and my images and keeping it little bit quirky on brand, especially like with the caffeinated kangaroo and all that sort of stuff. And I found AI to help me to become a better communicator, a better storyteller.
Mike Holp (16:55)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Jeff Ross (17:14)
but it's always keeping the humor in the loop is where I found the balance. So how has AI helped you support you with your content and your storytelling, that type of thing, if anything, or it hasn't?
Mike Holp (17:19)
sure.
Uh,
so, it does. I mean, I use it for like email copywriting. That's I would say, biggest ones. And then also, generating images. I've been using it for a little while. There were people creating these action figures in a box. Kinda goofy.
Jeff Ross (17:33)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah,
I think was one of the ones all guilty of starting that fad.
Mike Holp (17:48)
yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I decided to create one of those and I think it got on my personal profile like 160,000 views. Crazy. So it is a good way to just get more engagement and help people figure out about your brand. Yeah, sure. Sure, sure. And then also I use, for YouTube, there's a tool called vidIQ, which maybe you've heard of.
Jeff Ross (18:00)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, have a bit of fun with it too, right? Yeah. So.
Mm-hmm.
Mike Holp (18:14)
And that one has, you can basically just generate thumbnails using AI now. It's a huge time saver. You can just put a picture of yourself and it will put the background with you holding a phone or whatever with a nice hand. Saves a lot of time. VidIQ, that's for you too. Yep, it's all the best. There's VidIQ and TubeBuddy, so between the two of those you're all set.
Jeff Ross (18:19)
Okay, no I haven't heard of that one, so what's it called?
yeah, Yeah. What was that tool called, sorry?
Okay, let's look at that one. Yeah. Yep.
Okay, so out of all the social platforms, you Facebook, YouTube, TikTok and all that sort of thing, which one has served you the best?
Mike Holp (18:49)
Facebook by far. Facebook I've got on the page 160,000 followers and I'm reaching like 10 million people a month with zero ads. And that one just pays out. They pay me every month and so does YouTube. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Jeff Ross (18:57)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
That's
it. know Facebook started paying me 50, 60 bucks a month for my stuff. Nowhere near yours, but it's somewhere to start. you know, I've just, thank you. Like I've almost hit 10,000 followers. So what coaching or tips would you give to me to help me get from 10,000 to 100,000?
Mike Holp (19:11)
Yeah.
Good start, good start, just keep scaling up.
Uh-huh.
I would say you just got to put in the practice over years. It's gonna take a while. ⁓ But as long as you're monetized on your profile, you're on the right track. Just keep doing more of what's working and less of what isn't, basically.
Jeff Ross (19:33)
Mmm. There you go.
Mm. Mm.
Yeah. Yeah. So follow the numbers and lean into the numbers, right? Yeah. Nah.
Mike Holp (19:48)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And see
the posts that are getting a lot of engagement, because you can get performance bonuses, as I'm sure you know, ⁓ on those. Do one.
Jeff Ross (19:56)
Yep. Yep. So I had,
I, reckon I had my very first mini viral post go out there last month and it was a bit of a dad, dad joke, husband joke, and it got shared 600 times, a bit over 600. And it's like, holy holy wacko, where did this go from? It's just, I just flicked it somehow. And I tried to rinse. Yeah. I think like from that one post I may have got paid like $15. Okay. Cool. All right.
Mike Holp (20:10)
Mmm. Wow.
with your chicken dinner.
Okay.
Jeff Ross (20:25)
Well, how do I rinse and repeat this success now? So I've leaning in a little bit to the husband jokes and, and, the awesome, you know, obviously laptop lies to dad, right? So the husbands and the wives and follow me. ⁓ you know, this, they're leaning into it, right? So it's just having some fun with it, being entertaining. And I find you got to get your content marketing balance, right? So from being entertaining to educational, to being inspirational, to being promotional, there needs to be some promotion in there.
Mike Holp (20:28)
Yeah.
UGH
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Jeff Ross (20:55)
What would you say ⁓ are some of the things that you need to focus on to keep that balance?
Mike Holp (21:00)
Sure, and then once you identify your niche, you can just hone in on that. So for you it could add jokes. For me it's mostly Thailand related posts. I can't find that post that you're talking about. must have been a while ago. Okay. ⁓
Jeff Ross (21:05)
Mm.
Mmm. Yeah.
It was about a month ago now. Yeah. Yeah. I post probably about five
or six times a day, but yeah, I know that's a conversation between most influencers of itself. Some say only post once a day, some post six a day. I don't know. Do you have any theory around that?
Mike Holp (21:26)
huh.
It really, I don't think there's like a particular cadence you need to stick to. For me, it varies from day to day. I'll try to make a post almost every single day on my page. And a profile is just like, whatever comes to mind. And then I also have a Facebook group, which just hit 15,000 members today. So that one's Escape the Rap Race and Move Abroad to Asia. So I post a lot in there too.
Jeff Ross (21:59)
Yeah. So you definitely talk into the heart of an audience that especially wanting to escape America at the moment, you know, and look, look abroad. Right. So you've picked it. You've picked a very, ⁓ like it can be a polarizing topic, but it's also, that's a topic that's an audience that, you know, for those, you've, you've found your tribe, right. You found your people.
Mike Holp (22:06)
yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. And I try to keep it positive. I don't want to talk about politics and Trump and all this. It's like, they already know about that. So with the tariffs and all this nonsense. So if you want to get out of that situation, then. Just the facts.
Jeff Ross (22:24)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, you've created a catcher,
a catcher for the people who are wanting to escape that and you're there right there to catch them. I love it. Yeah.
Mike Holp (22:40)
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I've got the net.
Got the net out. They know how to find me.
Jeff Ross (22:47)
No,
it's quite smart, the strategy that you put into there. ⁓ Yeah, I think ⁓ you're very unassuming, but you're very servant-hearted and you're there just to help lead people. And I love everything that you represent.
Mike Holp (22:51)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Another nice thing that I've recently started doing on the profile is basically you can turn on automatic invites. So all of your act, I don't know if you know about this, ⁓ all of your active followers on the profile can automatically get invited to join your Facebook group.
Jeff Ross (23:07)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I just started on three weeks ago myself and I think my Facebook group's got 500 people in it just because of it. yeah, it's pretty cool. Yep. So let's look at wrapping up. If you had to give someone a simple three-step roadmap to launch a personal brand today from scratch, know, someone who's just starting out with a dream and a laptop and an internet connection, what would that game plan be and how would you get them started?
Mike Holp (23:19)
yeah.
There you go, yeah, it helps a lot. Uh-huh.
Thank
Okay, yeah, so I would recommend I'm gonna make it sound really simple, but essentially all you really need to do is take out your phone and hit record That you know that's and just get something up there right people make it so complicated like all these excuses I don't have the right camera equipment. I'll have the right lighting. I don't have the right environment all this stuff But all you really need is a phone
Jeff Ross (23:50)
Please do.
Love it.
Mike Holp (24:11)
Like, I shoot almost all of my content on this phone where we're recording this podcast. And it's just a simple Xiaomi phone, which I would like to upgrade at some point. But, you know, you don't really need anything all that fancy. So just hit record, start a YouTube channel, put it up on your Facebook profile, whatever. yeah. Yeah, exactly. Just do it. Get something up.
Jeff Ross (24:12)
Mm.
Mm.
that. Just just Nike it, just Nike it right? Just do it. Yeah, no, I love it.
Mike Holp (24:40)
Because
Jeff Ross (24:41)
Yeah.
Mike Holp (24:42)
if you keep procrastinating, you're never going to create anything, right?
Jeff Ross (24:46)
Yeah, get out of your head, get into your heart and just do it. Love it.
Mike Holp (24:50)
Done is always better than perfect. Perfect doesn't exist.
Jeff Ross (24:54)
Yes, I say that all the time. Sometimes it's better to be ignorance on fire versus knowledge on ice.
Mike Holp (24:56)
Thank you.
Yeah, sure, sure,
Jeff Ross (25:01)
Yeah. Well,
mate, this has been absolutely a gold one for our listeners. really appreciate you. You've said some amazing gems. Before we wrap up, where can our listeners connect with you? How can they get access to what you have to offer? Where can they learn more about your journey?
Mike Holp (25:14)
Sure.
Yeah, so the best way to get in touch with me is actually through my website, is BremoteConsulting.com. You can check that out. And I also have a face on Facebook. It's just Mike Abroad and same on YouTube. I've also got Instagram and TikTok as well, which I don't use quite as much. So yeah, I say the best way is just Facebook can look me up on Facebook.
Jeff Ross (25:23)
BOOM
Cool.
Now, awesome. And you post some really amazing content there, especially with Thailand and you know, you're making me want to come back. That's for sure. No, I love it. Yeah, no, we definitely have to make sure we make that happen next time. I'm off to Japan in June. So take it. That's going to be fun.
Mike Holp (25:48)
Welcome anytime, and come to Simu next time and I'll show you around.
This is how much...
I also want to go to Japan and also China too. Maybe this way.
Jeff Ross (26:03)
Yeah, I've always wanted
to go to Japan since I was a kid. I made a deal with my boys, I've got three boys, and I said to them three years ago, when they turn 13, I'll take them anywhere in the world, just a father and son trip. And my oldest just turned 13 this year and he's chosen to go to Japan. So we're off in June, can't wait. Tokyo, Osaka and Koyote. So we're gonna, we're gonna on the...
Mike Holp (26:06)
Ooh.
Amazing. that'll be fun. Tokyo?
Awesome.
Jeff Ross (26:29)
We'll get the bullet train, we'll go around, we'll just check that southern part of it all. So it should be fun.
Mike Holp (26:35)
You should create some YouTube videos or something while you're there or whatever
Jeff Ross (26:38)
We definitely will be. ⁓
son, actually, Harrison, we've taught him how to do all the podcast editing and publication. And so he's our little editor in the background who looks after all these shows and puts them up online for me. Pay him $30 an episode. He's got a little bit too much money. All right, legends, one thing before we go. You know it's a bit of a tradition here of mine.
Mike Holp (26:52)
Sweet!
Ha ha.
Great. Cheers.
Jeff Ross (27:05)
And I know my son, when he's editing these podcasts, he goes, dad, not another one. He'd make him cringe. So you ready for the classic laptop lifestyle dad joke? Why don't digital nomads ever get stressed?
Mike Holp (27:15)
Sure, hit me.
Mmm
to having too much fun?
Jeff Ross (27:22)
Because
they just zip up their problems into a carry-on and move on.
Mike Holp (27:30)
Yep, it and go.
Jeff Ross (27:34)
Store it and go. Legends, if you've been fired up, make sure to subscribe, share this with a mate of yours and let's get it out there so we can help people create a journey of freedom. And leave us a cheeky five star review on your Fiverr platform. Until next time, stay caffeinated, stay legendary. And you can find us on YouTube, on the LaptopLives.Dad's channel. You can find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and we're also partnered up with the Los Angeles Tribune Podcast Network.
Thank you very much for your time. look forward to seeing you on the next one.